Other than the multimaster (with diamond blade) dremel etc what is the quickest way to remove grout from 5/6mm grout lines? I find the Fein is fine for small grout lines 1mm but anything above is far to time consuming.
Maybe a grinder with diamond blade of some kind? what do you guys use for 5/6mm grout lines large areas?
These guys claim they can re grout in 4/5 hours so they must be using a a very quick tool...
any ideas what they use?
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Awesome thanks Eric..I emailed these guys before having found this tool through google...looks alot quicker than the fein for 2/3mm grout lines, what about replacement tips do they wear down quickly?
Thanks Bruce I thuoght that might be the best tool for the job...although it worries me a bit about keeping a really steady hand...I guess you can just finish the edges with the fein? Which grinder are you using the bosch?
I have someone hold the dust pickup between my legs and go to town.
The blade does not "jump", and if the grout joint is thicker you can move it
side to side as well.
Usually it is intimidating until you cut a few feet and realize that it is not going
to jump all over the place.
I use a Makita floor saw with diamond blade and water feed. zero dust and once you get adept with it it takes grout out at lightning speed
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Nice one thanks Logistics...saw your post on Tilersforums refering to the Makita wasn't sure which one you meant though...what size blade do you use on it for 5/6mm grout lines? and do you run right up to the edge of tile or finish off the edges with another tool? can you use it on walls also?
Nice one thanks Logistics...saw your post on Tilersforums refering to the Makita wasn't sure which one you meant though...what size blade do you use on it for 5/6mm grout lines? and do you run right up to the edge of tile or finish off the edges with another tool? can you use it on walls also?
Bloody hell! The post on Tilersforums must be old I haven't posted on there for about two years. Anyway blade is about 200-210mm in diameter and 2mm wide. I have also had success with putting two blades on together for quicker work on wider joints. My only complaint is the water feed is made out of plastic and they only last a couple of jobs but I just charge every customer for a new water feed in the price. I can get fairly close to the edge and then finish the last bit with a Fein or by Hand. Never tried it on walls so can't comment!
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The grout removal tool that I use is an Automach wood carver. It's made in Japan and is heavy duty to go for many regrouts without needing service. It's a reciprocating touch activated high quality tool.
It can be purchased here:
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All you have to do is to bring it in to a weld shop to have a tip put on it to accept replaceable triangle or diamond carbide grout removal tips. A five minute alteration that will serve you a very long time. This instrument will seriously outlast cables. I have used the rotating cable tools and was not pleased because the cable would only last a limited time.
For the price, I would try both and judge them to see which one you prefer.
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I've been looking into this sonicrafter. Seems like a fairly versitile tool.
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This tool is good for removing commercial (sika brand) caulking from sidewalks and buildings. I have found it impractical in regrouting.
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The grout removal tool that I use is an Automach wood carver. It's made in Japan and is heavy duty to go for many regrouts without needing service. It's a reciprocating touch activated high quality tool.
It can be purchased here:
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All you have to do is to bring it in to a weld shop to have a tip put on it to accept replaceable triangle or diamond carbide grout removal tips. A five minute alteration that will serve you a very long time. This instrument will seriously outlast cables. I have used the rotating cable tools and was not pleased because the cable would only last a limited time.
For the price, I would try both and judge them to see which one you prefer.
Do these type of tools not chip the tiles? Even when the grout line is extremely thin (1 or 2 mm) and it is pretty much tool on tile?
I've been looking into this sonicrafter. Seems like a fairly versitile tool.
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That is along the lines of the Fein Machine. The problem with most oscillating tools is they are fine for a while and OKish in small areas but they are useless when there are 1000's sq ft involved. I will stick with my Makita
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Yep, I sure do. They are only referring to the 1/16" unsanded grout in the old 4" tiled shower walls.
here it is. I have one.
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Watch the video!
Does that actually remove enough grout for a full regrout on 1/16" lines? I have no clue, but it seems like that triangle would only knock off the top 1/16" of the grout before it was prevented from going any deeper by its own triangular shape... no???
Remeber, they are only dealing w/ 4" tiles. those tiles have the little feet on them so that when they get installed you but them together making uniform width joints that are 1/16". The grout in between tiles like those is very shallow due to those feet. Also, since it is unsanded grout, it doesn't need much depth to hold. So using that tool takes enough out to let new unsanded grout settle in. It will leave some deep in there but with unsanded it is enough depth to hold.
Oh ya? Can you give me some details? Did you substitute 100% of the water for c/s? I take it there is no need to c/s after? How has it held up? Any shrinkage/cracking probs?
Yep, I sure do. They are only referring to the 1/16" unsanded grout in the old 4" tiled shower walls.
here it is. I have one.
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I just got one of these. Not sure if I like it though. Was doing a shower pan regrout this week (4in tiles 1/16 grout) and my first grout line the triangle head cut into the side of the tile. I thought maybe I was applying to much pressure so I tried less pressure and it didn't seam to cut that well. I just couldn't find a happy medium on pressure. It either cut the side of the tile or didn't cut out the grout very well.
The video on the website shows them just zipping. Not sure what I was doing wrong. I ended up using the multimaster. I really wish I could do these regrouts quicker. The grouting part is easy. It's just cutting the old stuff out.
My first experience doing a regrout it took two days to cut out the old grout. It was an old shower though.
The grout removal tool that I use is an Automach wood carver. It's made in Japan and is heavy duty to go for many regrouts without needing service. It's a reciprocating touch activated high quality tool.
It can be purchased here:
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All you have to do is to bring it in to a weld shop to have a tip put on it to accept replaceable triangle or diamond carbide grout removal tips. A five minute alteration that will serve you a very long time. This instrument will seriously outlast cables. I have used the rotating cable tools and was not pleased because the cable would only last a limited time.
For the price, I would try both and judge them to see which one you prefer.
How this works on very hard 1/16 unsanded grout? What would be better to use in that grout: Grout Grabber or that triangle tool?